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About the Author

Walter Mosley is the author of the best-selling Easy Rawlins mysteries, including Devil In a Blue Dress, A Little Yellow Dog and Gone Fishin', and the novel RL's Dream.

 

Always Outnumbered, Always Outgunned
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Foreword | An Interview with Walter Mosley | Discussion Questions

 

Foreword 

Walter Mosley has made his career out of doing the unexpected and the unpredictable. In creating Easy Rawlins, the reluctant and existentially minded black detective of his bestselling series of mystery thrillers, he has broken the color barrier of the largely white arena of crime fiction. That same series has brought him the sort of mainstream literary acclaim and stature usually denied to crime writers. He serves on the board of important literary organizations, is studied in the college curriculum, appears in the Norton Anthology of African American Literature, and dines on occasion at the White House. He published Gone Fishin', an Easy Rawlins prequel of sorts with Black Classics Press, a small, black-owned publisher, as a gesture of solidarity with the African-American community of writers, publishers, and booksellers—for no advance. His straightforward literary novel of the blues, RL's Dream, signaled his ability to write powerfully and successfully outside the mystery genre. In short, he breaks a lot of rules and shatters many preconceptions.

In November Walter Mosley will extend his range even further with his new book, Always Outnumbered, Always Outgunned. In a cycle of stories set in present-day Watts he introduces a compelling new hero, Socrates Fortlow: an ex-convict with a violent past and a difficult present who must struggle, in his own way, with many of the issues that face the black community. As his first name implies, he is a seeker after truth and these are moral tales—but the moral is always one that the reader must discover along with Socrates. That Socrates Fortlow's adventures have wide resonance is indicated by the fact that a film adaptation of Always Outnumbered, Always Outgunned, starring Laurence Fishburne and scripted by Mosley himself, aired on HBO and is now available on home video.

An Interview with Walter Mosley

We spoke to Walter Mosley about his new book and hero in his sparsely furnished working office in the Empire State Building.

What was the genesis of Socrates Fortlow?

WM: I was thinking one day some years ago about writing a collection of stories about the kind of complex philosophy that generates itself in the inner city, from the mouths of the people who start this philosophy. You know, people's way of approaching and living life is not simply something you study in universities, it's historical, and so I thought that a black Socrates—because I see Socrates in the West as one of the, if not the, most important philosopher—would be an interesting character. So I talked to a few people about the idea, and no one really got it or understood it, so I put it away. And then, one day I was asked by an editor to write a short story for the catalogue for the Edward Hopper collection at the Whitney and I thought, "They'll never be interested in anything I write." But I remembered the Socrates stories, so I said, "Well, I'll try to write that character now, fitting it into this assignment", which I did. I was so happy about it; I was absolutely sure that the Whitney would go crazy and not want it, but indeed, they loved it. But I didn't even care about that because what happened was, I loved it, and I thought "This is certainly the voice for this man."

As his name implies, Socrates is by nature an experienced philosopher and teacher. What issues does he ponder and what lessons does he mean to teach?

WM: Well, I think he's a real teacher in the way of Socrates. I don't know if I picked Socrates because he is one of the greatest philosophers, but also because Socrates believed he was the important philosopher because he wasn't fooled into thinking that he had more knowledge than someone else. His idea in life was that you had to discover knowledge, you had to go through life and you had to discover what was right and what was wrong, which is the same question that Socrates Fortlow asks, "What is right and what is wrong?" As a teacher, he is also a student. He's learning. So in some of the stories you'll find he's actually taking somebody and teaching them what's right, or he's actually giving them a lesson or showing them something. But in many of the stories he himself is the student; he gets into the situation and he keeps asking the question, says "What's the right thing to do here? What's the right step for me to make here?" And sometimes he becomes very confused. Sometimes other people have to come in and tell him what's right, and even if he gets angry about it, he thinks about it enough until he makes the right decisions.

Did you have a particular audience or reader in mind for this book as opposed to, say, the Easy Rawlins novels or even RL's Dream?

WM: There are a lot of people whom I'm targeting. I'm interested in the general public reading the books and understanding the books in relation to their society—black people recognizing language and current history in the work, white readers recognizing themselves in the decisions made by these people in a place that they may not have been in. I'm also very interested, of course, in the art of writing and the form of language and how sentences work. But for this book specifically, I was thinking that young people could read this fiction in some kind of school or workshop setting. The stories are pretty short, 10 pages, 15 pages—and each covers a whole moral groundwork. So I was thinking that young people who live in the inner city, white or black, could read these stories and then discuss them and then in this way actually see some kind of importance in literature. Because I try to structure the stories to be very realistic, to really talk about the type of situations people find themselves in, not the ones that one would hope they're in, but the ones that they are in. And the decisions you have to make would become very important. There's a crack addict in the neighborhood murdering people. Well, this is a real issue. So, how to deal with it? Who knows, but Socrates deals with it, and maybe somebody else would deal with it another way. But at least the question would be brought up, and a discussion would be possible. So I was hoping, I am hoping, that young people approach these stories in this spirit.

In fact, Always Outnumbered, Always Outgunned does deal with what you might call hot-button issues in the black community-black-on-black crime, gangbanging, boys growing up without fathers, relations between black men and black women, and, as you just mentioned, drug dealing in the community. Do you expect any controversy in some of the ways you've framed these issues?

WM: I never expect controversy. And so far I haven't had any. Maybe there will be some—it's hard to say. There are some decisions Socrates makes that are questionable and that you may not want your kids to make and that you yourself may not want to be held responsible for making. But even at that, I think, that the job of fiction is not to grab you by the shoulders and say: "You've got to do this." I think most people realize that when they read my stories they can say: "This is a story . . . it's interesting and it makes me think about it, and I can either accept or reject it." So no, I don't expect controversy, but if I do get it, I don't care. I'm not concerned with it.

Does Always Outnumbered, Always Outgunned signal a new direction or turn in your writing away from the crime thriller, or will you continue to work both sides of the street or even find another?

WM: I'm interested in crime writing, I like it very much. And I'm interested in the characters in crime writing. Easy Rawlins and Mouse, these are characters I love writing about and will keep writing about. I wish I had more time to write more than I do—I look at Simenon and Rex Stout, and I feel jealous that they were able to get out all those books. But at the same time I'm really interested in the possibility today of a writer like me being able to do anything, being able to go anywhere inside the writing and to think up anything inside the writing; not just being someone who is a mystery writer. I want to write literary fiction, experimental fiction, science fiction—all of that. I want to be able to expand the horizons of every writer like myself, and a lot of that means black writers, but not just black writers, everybody. Let's open the doors, let's be able to think in a broader way about fiction and who writes fiction. Writing is a business and I treat it like a business, but in another sense it's also the way the you express your culture, through your life. And that is so important because you have to go wherever your heart leads you.

Discussion Questions  

1. How did you feel about Darryl's two crimes in "Crimson Shadow" (killing the rooster and killing the boy)? Did Socrates' responses seem right to you? What do you think Darryl learns from their first encounter? Is it what Socrates meant for him to learn?

2. In Always Outnumbered, Always Outgunned, many questions are raised—and some are answered—over meals. (Think of Darryl and Socrates eating the rooster, Socrates deciding to pay for all four meals at Iula's, the Minettes having Socrates over to eat, and Socrates having the Shakurs over to give them the table he's rebuilt.) What effect does eating a meal together have on these characters and on what they say to eachother?

3. What is Socrates' relationship to women? How does he feel about Delia in "The Wanderer," Corina in "Man Gone," Iula in "The Thief," or Theresa in "Letter to Theresa"? Why do you think he's still alone? How does Socrates cope with loneliness?

4. Money can confer both pride and shame. What does money do for Socrates in "The Thief"? What about in "The Fire Bug"? What about the money he earns from his supermarket job?

5. In "The Wanderer," Mosley writes that "if anyone tried to put [Socrates] in a cell again he would try his best to kill them." Socrates' namesake, the Greek philosopher, chose to remain in jail even though he knew it meant he would be executed. What might Mosley be saying by giving his Socrates such a different outlook? How does Socrates think about jail in "Black Dog" when he almost has to go back?

6. What does freedom mean to Socrates? How is his understanding different from that of people around him? In "The Wanderer," why does he go to the beach?

7. What is Socrates' philosophy about how people should live and how they should treat each other? Is he able to live up to his own ideals?

8. In "The Lesson" and "Midnight Meeting," how does Socrates teach? Do his lessons make sense to his listeners? Do you think Socrates' philosophy fits the world he and his friends live in?

9. In "History," what does the Capricorn bookstore mean to Socrates? What does Socrates want to know? What can he learn from the people who come together at the Capricorn?

10. What does Socrates think about the riots in Watts? About his neighborhood in general? Why does he drive Petis out of Petis's house in "Midnight Meeting"? Why does he turn in the arsonist in "Fire Bug"? Do these seem like the right choices to you? What about the lesson he gives Darryl in "Marvane Street"?

11. Socrates has a wide range of friends, from Darryl, to the high school quarterback at the supermarket, to Iula, Right, even Bruno, the black dog. What do you think friendship means to Socrates? Does he feel he has to prove himself in his friendships because of his past?

12. In almost every story in Always Outnumbered, Always Outgunned there is a violent encounter. Sometimes it seems as if Socrates couldn't get through the day without his "rock-breaking" hands. Is violence part of Socrates' philosophy? Is it an unpleasant necessity? Is it the result of the force of outside circumstances?

13. In this book there is death by violence and death by old age. How does Socrates respond differently to the two kinds? What does he do for Roland in "History"? What about for Right in "Last Rites"?