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Robert Creeley (b. 1926)

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In experimental American verse since 1955, Charles Olson and Robert Creeley are often thought of as a pair. They corresponded vigorously for years about poetry; they taught together at Black Mountain; and they both affirmed a poetry of great freedom, in which form would grow naturally from meaning, from the language of the utterance, and from the self. Out of these shared values, the poems of Olson and Creeley evolved in different directions. Looking at their work comparatively, we can learn more about the tradition of "anti-tradition" and the individual talent.

1. Read carefully the Creeley poems For Love (1962) and Fathers (1986) and the Olson poems Maximus, to Himself (1953) and Celestial Evening, October 1967 (1975).You will notice that in each of these poems, there are sentences which are long or unended and arrangements of words which are difficult to sort out grammatically. What is the effect of these long, difficult, open strings? Is that effect different from one Creeley poem to another? From one Olson poem to the other? Or from the Creeley poems to the Olson poems?

2. A long-standing debate about Walt Whitman's Song of Myself has to do with whether the "I" of that poem transcends the individual ego, becomes more than "Walt Whitman," becomes disembodied and universal. What about the "Maximus" in these selected Maximus Poems? What of the "I" in the Creeley poems? Do they achieve some measure of escape from the ego? If so, where, how, and to what extent?

3. In Creeley's The Door (1959) and Olson's Where Do Poppies Bloom (1975), we see verse in arrangements which suggest traditional forms. The Door makes interesting, erratic use of repetition and even of rhyme; and Where Do Poppies Bloom is written in sprung pentameters and hexameters. Why might these poems have a more "formal" shape than others in the NAAL selections from these two poets? What themes in each poem might resonate with or find strong expression in these forms?